Psychopath Magnet (Warning, potential triggers to people who have been abused)

Have you ever felt like you attract a certain type of person?

I have, and I do. It seems that ever since I escaped my childhood home and ran smack bang into my next abuser, I have been a magnet for the worst scum of the earth. Somehow they seem to sense that I’m a vulnerable, hurting soul, and they home in on me. Do they have some sort of radar? Is there something about me that gives it away? My walk? My talk? My body language?

Googling this question landed me in a forum for Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASPD) sufferers themselves. From the initial warning -

“Given the unique propensities of those who are faced with the issues of ASPD, topics at times may be uncomfortable for non ASPD readers. Discussions related to violent urges are permitted here, within the context of deeper understanding of the commonalties shared by members. Indulging these urges is not what regular users here are attempting to do.

Conversations here can be triggering for those who have suffered abuse or violent encounters. Respectful questioning is welcome from non ASPD members.”

Okayyyyyyyy…

I do not know anything, really, about the personality disorders that are ASPD and Narcissistic PD (NPD). What I do know, is that in the support groups, and in the books that I’ve joined and read in order to understand what my own abusers were driven by, ‘Socipaths’, ‘Psychopaths’, and ‘Malignant Narcissists’ were labelled as ‘abusers’ and even ‘evil’ and were said to have these personality disorders.

I do not know if I agree with this. Every single abuser in my life (and potential abuser, those I have gotten away from) has fit the descriptions in these groups and books to a T. Reading them has given me so many “Aha” moments and helped me to come to a shaky level of  peace about ‘why’ it happened – probably the closest to answering that I will ever have. But people suffering from true personality disorders are not evil, are they? They are sick. I doubt they are all abusers either. So how do we tell the difference? I do not know, and I’m loathe to label everyone under one label. So I just want to say for this post – I’m talking about people who abuse, and enjoy abusing, others. So someone could argue that their friend with one of these personality disorders is sick and that it’s not nice to lump them in with the evil people – but if they actually enjoy hurting people I am sure as hell going to call them evil!!

Back to my question – why do they zoom in on me? The first answer in the forum said “sexual attraction”. I didn’t really think that is the whole answer – we are human beings, and when one person is strongly drawn to another person sexually, it does NOT necessarily make them a psychopath! The next answer I read however, chilled me to the bone:

“This subject is interesting to me because I am attracted strangely towards certain things. I mean I maybe attracted to someone or grow curious about someone purely because they stand out in a peculiar way. I mean if I meet someone who is completely naive it baffles me so it attracts me. I do experiments on them to see how they would react. I rationalize it in my mind that I am helping them as much as I am learning about the human race. Or suppose I meet a completely moral and upright person, like a virgin. I find this fascinating. Especially, if they are like a senior in high school or older. It attracts me to them. It makes me want to preserve them as if they are a species going extinct…”(source)(emphasis mine)

Can you imagine talking about another human being, one who you were initiating a relationship with, this way? The commenter goes on to state that he “want[s] to completely devour my prey in every aspect of their life…. LOL I think the biggest thing is categorizing people, some are in the “attractive” file and some are in different files for different things.”(source)

“Devour my prey”. Charming, right? Remember this is a potential girlfriend or boyfriend we are talking about here. Not ‘prey’. Other members of the forum go on to agree on sexual attraction being key. But they talk about human beings like they are objects of curiosity.

I will call my first abuser out of home, Wanker. A very fitting name indeed. Wanker was a very sexual man. He was about 35 to my just-seventeen. He saw me first on campus at the university I was beginning my dance/performance degree in, and I guess, decided that he ‘wanted’ me. I wanted nothing to do with him! One day I was walking back to the place where I was staying at this stage, a flat, and he drove up alongside me, leaned out of the window of his car and said, “Get in”. I did not get in. I kept walking.

So Wanker got out of his car, bodily picked me up, forced me in his car, and drove away. From that day, I was effectively ‘his’.

He had caught his prey, claimed it as his, taken it away to ‘play’ with.

So why did he choose me? I was a very young seventeen despite all that I had already been through, and I certainly was not a sexual person. If anything, I was A-sexual. I didn’t feel turned on, I didn’t think about it, I didn’t want anything to do with it actually – it repulsed me. Maybe he saw that as a challenge. I was also a dancer – small. I had gained a lot of weight, but looking back, I still wasn’t a sexually attractive woman – more like a young girl who had just started filling out.

I think that my previous abuse in my home set me up somehow to attract him. I don’t know for sure, because I cannot read minds, and I’m not going to ever seek Wanker out to ask him – but I’m pretty sure that after leaving home I had an air of ‘beaten and dejected’ about me. I was exhausted. I’d been through a lifetime of abuse already, a life time of being on edge – that walking-on-eggshells feeling of when is the next blow going to come, when is this person going to crack up again. You never relax. Even sleeping is dangerous – I used to feel I had to keep my back to a wall, in case I was stabbed or hit from behind. Would someone use my doona to smother me? Or would the funnel web spiders drop from their infested curtain above me? There were dangers all around, all hours of the day. And I was exhausted and almost broken – almost but not quite – when I got out of there. I was strong and determined enough to make sure I found myself a roof over my head and fought to get some money to keep me fed and clothed, but it was all an overwhelming time for me. And in walked Wanker, saw me vulnerable, and he swooped.

I don’t know how these people know when someone is vulnerable. I could have put it down to ‘luck’ on Wanker’s part. But later on, when free of him, I was targeted, and keep being targeted, by the same sort of person. And not just men, either. Women too. The women have come in the form of ‘so called friends’ who turn around and stab me in the back and keep on stabbing. Ingratiate themselves into my life then try to tear it to shreds.

What is it? Personally, I think it’s my body language first up. I somehow have to put up stronger boundaries – a real “F*ck off” message as one counsellor described it. My body language is too open and too accepting. I tend to be a kind heart who cares too much, and these predators grab that with both hands, exploit it. The hard part is learning how to ‘send that message’ with my body language all the time. I’m getting there, but obviously I still am not doing it ‘right’ because I have just this past weekend attracted yet another ‘hanger on’, would be stalkerish guy, who is now popping up in ‘convenient’ places that I happen to be and has given me a love letter. Yes you read that right. He gave me a love letter.

Sheesh.

“Dear stranger, I love you!” Get lost! No way.

I have noticed a lot of regularities in what these people do and say.

They LIE. They cannot tell the truth to save their lives. Their backstories will be elaborate and full of twists and turns. If they have obviously seen hard times, like obviously had drug/alcohol addiction, homelessness, joblessness, or are broke, the explanation will always be that it wasn’t their fault. It was always someone else’s fault. They are always the innocent party. It reminds me of that saying “everyone in jail is innocent”. And yes, a couple of my personal predators have turned out to be frequent jail flyers. And yes, they were innocent. Surprise, surprise.

When it comes to talking about ‘you and me’, they always say “It’s your choice. I will not force you into anything. I’m a kind hearted person. I’m gentle.” and other statements along those lines – to me anyway – because I have always said firmly from the beginning that I do not want a relationship. Not with them. Not with anyone at this stage. Their come back is always “It’s your choice, I will not force you” which is ironically exactly what they are intending to try and do.

Another lie they always trot out is how it was ‘meant to be’. “I saw you across a crowded room and just could not look away”. “Our eyes met and we clicked” (even though I didn’t feel it – these people speak for us both). “It was meant to be. We were two lonely souls looking for our soul mate.” *gag* Okay, I know this happens in real life, true dovey love happens – but with these people it’s so patently fake – at least in hindsight – that you just feel sickened.

They are also highly manipulative. When you turn them down, they will make YOU feel like YOU are the one who is out of line. “What, you wouldn’t spare half an hour to have coffee with me?” “Am I that much of a loser?” “Oh, you make me want to cry..” – all said with a wounded, puppy dog expression. Later on, if you let them get in – they will turn everything round on you, and the puppy dog will turn into a vicious dangerous dog. Everything will be your fault. You talk too much. You breathe too much. Violence will accompany the slightest thing. If you are with a real winner, this will translate into homicide. Especially after you begin to unravel their webs of lies. Even when the truth is staring them in the face, they will lie, and they will protect their lies. Every single time.

M Scott Peck called them them true human evil, calls them “People Of The Lie” – which is also the title of his popular book. He was before his time, before the terms of sociopath and narcissist were bandied around in abuse groups with sighs and “You too?” I do reccomend that you check his book out, along with Martha Stout’s The Psychopath Next Door, and Jon Ronson’s The Psychopath Test.

Interestingly, these people aren’t all ‘bad’ to the uninitiated. In all books, there are examples of seemingly ‘nice’ people. Pillars of society. Peck illustrates this with a scenario where his patient, a teenage boy, was given the gun that his older brother, his parent’s favourite child, used to commit suicide. The parents were both ‘evil’. Their message, unspoken, was that they wished that the boy had killed himself instead of his brother and that it would be so convenient if he took this gift and used it. Stout gave us a case study involving a woman who posed as a psychologist, saw patients in a big hospital, came across to her co-workers as a lovely, kind woman who loved her dog and cared perhaps too much about her patients – and yet was  manipulating and sabotaging both patients and colleages. The dog was no better than a prop to her, discarded the moment it got in the way.

My own older sister is a good example of this. She is the scariest person I have ever met. A true viper in the body of a woman. Men flock to her like bees to honey because she is so very attractive. She works now as a naturopath (which I always saw as a ‘PC’ alternative to her first love, black magic) and is a Justice of the Peace – an upstanding pillar of society.  But she spits pure venom, has killed animals, and I believe she is capable of cold blooded murder. My mother, although she put on her ‘lovely friendly lady’ mask out in public, wasn’t so good at fooling people, even my school friends used to whisper that there was something really weird and ‘off’ about my mother, and ‘poor Fiona’. If only they knew.

I feel like I was ‘marked’ in some way from the beginning. I started out as a play toy for my family predators, and was passed along to predators ‘out there’. Somehow they can tell, and I have turned into a pied piper of sorts for them, whereever I go, they will find me.

I intend to change that.

Okay this is getting to be a long and pointless post – more a rant of mine. I’ll finish it with a site that lists the characteristics of a sociopath for you to read. You might just recognise someone in your own life. Most probably you will – there are many people in our lives like this – more than we can possibly imagine. Truly wolves in sheeps clothing. Beware!

Do you seem to continually attract dangerous people? 

44 thoughts on “Psychopath Magnet (Warning, potential triggers to people who have been abused)

  1. iamnotshe says:

    Oh yes my friend. I’m freaked that these eff-ups use people like human guinea pigs but I SEE it clearly. Manipulation… Wolves in lambs clothes .. Oh and the will eat their prey!!! With no hesitation!!!

    • Fiona says:

      Hello my dear friend and sis – so true. And how ironic, that a very narcissistic associate of ours is being the perfect illustration for this post. I was wondering if I should include at least a picture to break up the words. I should have just posted a picture of her *sigh* They are everywhere aren’t they!
      I’m so lucky to have wonderful friends like you, love you and hope you are well xxx

  2. I am thinking our recent conversation about my ex-husband has sparked something here. Thank you for shining a light on this subject for others so they may see the same patterns with people in their lives. These people are absolute poison, not worth a second of your time or an inch of your emotion. They hide their true intentions through their charm SO well, its easy to try and overlook their flaws at first. Until you eventually realize…these aren’t just “flaws”…these people are downright ill.

    And the lies. The lies upon lies upon lies. He has no remorse when caught in a lie. Just tries to shrug it off as “Oh look at what I did! I’m so silly!” NO! You’re a manipulative asshole that tries to be CUTE when caught! As if it’s no big deal. As if I’M surely the one overreacting.

    I always thought “Well nobody is perfect, everyone has to compromise in relationships/marriages.” Then you find out you’ve been “compromising” far, far more than you should have to. You do NOT have to live with this shit.

    I didn’t allow mine to consume me. So he went to find another who would. I wish I could talk to her. I wish she would be open to what I have to say about him. But love, especially new love, is very very blind. She won’t listen. She’ll think she is different. She’ll think she can change him. I hope she doesn’t waste too much time on him.

    Thank you again, Fiona. I hope you are able to learn from your mistakes and can grow into a better person because of them. I’m hoping to do that myself. Be strong in who you are. Own it. Keep your head up high. You’ve got this.

    • Fiona says:

      Hey Miss Pistachio :)
      You are right sort of. Our recent conversation added to a lot of sparking already going on in my brain for quite some time now. Do you ever feel like so much is pointing you in a certain direction in your quest for answers? Well for me, I had already been reading the books I talked about in this post, and had identified my family and other abusers as being narcissistic/sociopathic. But it seems that people are coming out of the woodwork with similar experiences and crossing paths with me left right and centre. We all have so much to learn from each other! I also really appreciate the different attitudes that each survivor I talk to has. And the different perspectives. I love your gutsiness, determination to move on and learn from this and never fall for it again.
      No remorse – yes. that’s what makes them different from other people IMO. There is sick, and then there is SICK. What hope have they got if they have no desire to change because they do not see anything wrong in themselves, in what they do to other people, and they blatantly don’t give a damn how they hurt you and even enjoy hurting you? Most sick people identify themselves as sick because they know that there is something wrong with them, and even though these people I guess come to ‘know’ that there is something very wrong with them because of the trouble they get into, there is nothing wrong with them in THEIR world and therefore they are not ‘sick’ in their eyes.
      I did that too, thinking that nobody is perfect. “Everybody has a past, we have all made mistakes, I’m not perfect myself..” sure, but if they are lying about that past, and they keep lying even when you find out the truth.. anyway you are right about the ‘compromising’. It’s like settling for something that’s dented and scratched in the store when you can afford to get the best of the best. I don’t WANT someone who has erred so much in their past that they have to hide it. I want someone open and upfront and sincere and genuine. I don’t want to be second guessing him and making excuses for him, that’s a sure warning sign.
      Thank YOU for sharing your own experiences with me. Knowledge is power, right? And learning from our mistakes, yes. I’m learning and it’s past time I stopped being a magnet for abuse. xx

  3. Scarlett says:

    Obviously I can’t speak from the perspective of someone with ASPD, but in “real life” situations I tend to be dominant and “strong”, and I’ve had to learn not to overpower people who are introverted, uncertain, or lacking confidence. I first became aware of this tendency as a teenager, when at first I complained about how it “wasn’t fair” that I had to “entertain everyone” (#firstworldproblems, haha), and then I’d sometimes use the strength of my personality to get what I wanted–never to hurt people, but I didn’t always care what happened if I got what i wanted. (High school brings out the best in people.) Now, I’m able to use that part of my personality in good ways, in leadership roles and writing.

    Anyway…tangent. What I meant to say is that even for non-ASPD people with strong personalities and a lot of confidence, it’s VERY easy to identify “weak”, malleable, or easily-influenced people. A lot of it is definitely body language, but it’s also very easy to pick up on in very basic conversation–how people respond to questions, to being interrupted, to things that catch them off-guard, etc. I would imagine that for a predatory person who has spent a long time seeking out this kind of “target” for abuse, it would be almost effortless.

    I’m sure that as you grow healthier and achieve a higher level of confidence, that will show. I’d also encourage you to walk with purpose, keep your chin up (literally AND figuratively, haha), make direct eye contact, and speak assertively. Abusers want victims who don’t fight back, and if you exude confidence and assuredness, they’ll be scared off. :)

    • Fiona says:

      Wow you have helped me identify another stereotype that I’d totally bought into about people who have ED’s, we are not all weaker, easily led people at all! I guess the strong personality totally makes sense. It sounds like you turned that strength and stubborness onto yourself because you have overpowered and controlled your own self now for so many years. And I guess despite identifying myself as weak willed and easily led, I’ve got some of that strength in myself too – perhaps I turned it inwards instead of ever acting dominantly in my life.
      It’s really interesting. I always thought that on some level people with ED’s had a huge lack of confidence. Do you feel this is true for you, and that you cover it with a brilliant act of having courage? Because you come across as confident, personable, successful, etc. And yet, reading your blog, despite being all that outwardly, inside with your ED struggles you are as broken as me.
      You are so right about the body language and keeping our chins up in every sense. Actually even discounting the abuse situations, as I’ve gotten more and more well.. okay not well but well-er (trying to avoid making it sound like I think I’m actually well rather than on my way there because of she who will not be named)(who ironically could be a perfect subject for a post like this) anyway back on tangent – the closer I’ve gotten to being well, the more of this confidence I’ve naturally found. There’s hope,eh? Thank you for your awesome comment that’s made me think on so many levels :)

  4. mundanebrain says:

    I, too, used to be quite ‘overpowering’ as the girl above commented, but ED first knocked me off my pedestal and shrinked me into an unindentifiably small version of myself, and after that I learnt to keep it on the low a bit more. The urge to manipulate the world the way I want it has lessened over the years, and sometimes when it does pop up, I can stop it. Sometimes. I was never manipulative in a hurtful way to people, but I did have a tendency to make sure the outcome was what I wanted it to be. For example with group assignments, MY idea/strategy/conclusion/etc would be the one used. Even if that meant I had to do most of the work, I had to get things done my way. A very unpleasent and exhausting habbit that was indeed..

    I attract both wonderful and awful people, as, I think, everyone does. I do know that I have a tendency to ‘reject’ (or at least, not let close) the good, and sometimes am prone to depend on the bad. Too bad that most of the time I do this without realizing, at least, until it’s too late. This has shaped, or more; damaged, me to the extent that I hardly trust anyone anymore, and I have built a fort around my inner me. Nobody is allowed to get close to the core. I have been hurt too much before, and am scared to let it happen again. But indeed, unfortunately, this also means blocking out people who have the kindest of hearts, even towards me.

    • Fiona says:

      It’s actually blown me away to have a couple of you identify as not just strong but ‘overpowering’. And you also answered my question – as you said, Ed knocked you down. Because I couldn’t put that ‘overpowering’ strength of will together with Ed, outwardly at least because as I’ve said to Scarlett, it certainly takes that strength of will to do what we do to ourselves. Actually it makes me sad thinking of you knocked down like that and humbled. You and Scarlett sound to me like the sort of people who are simply born to be great leaders – it’s just that ED got in the way.
      Also right about the attracting both kinds of people. I’ve made it sound like I only attract the bad, but in reality I’m surrounded by some really awesome people, more good than bad. Interesting that you said you tend to reject the good and keep the bad – me too I think. For me I think part of this is because I don’t believe I’m good enough for the good people to associate with, and that I deserve the bad… hmm.. more thinking about this required. I think I also get caught by my desire to be ‘friendly and nice’ to everyone regardless of whether they are good or bad – and then get stuck when the bad take a mile instead of the inch I gave them.
      I am really really sad that you have been hurt so much that you have had to build that fortress that keeps everyone bad AND good out – and sadly relate. I hope that brick by brick, you can smash that down – or build a secret door for the good people to surround you more and more anyway (hugs) xx

      • mundanebrain says:

        Actually I think the overpowering part works extremely well with ED. Indeed, WITH ED. Whereas I used to use it outwards, my ED was a way of keeping it but turning it inwards. I am not sure which one happened first, or that it gradually slipped. But the overpowering, exhaustive, manipulative and controlling side of me were all parts that were perfectly compatible with anorexia. Perfectly.

        It has only been since recovery that I realized this though, and that I’ve also been able to not let it take over my way of acting to the outside world again. All of the aforementioned personality sides do not have to be negative as such, but combined and especially when too strong, they are. I guess it all comes down to balance, and with that, finding out the real me in there somewhere

        • Fiona says:

          I’m so glad that you did find the real you, Sooz, because the real you is lovely, and you deserve better xxx

  5. i know why we end up with abusers! it is because, it is all we know, and all we think we are worth. i know when i look back on my many boyfriends, they were all like my father…we are usually attracted to those like our fathers.

    • Dimplz says:

      I agree with this! I think it’s not so much that you attract them, but you don’t shed them off as quickly as everyone else. We all encounter people who are damaged and damaging. Most of us just get rid of them at the first bad sign, and some people to their own demise, don’t know how to or cannot escape their abusers. The abuse is too familiar to them, and they can’t imagine better for themselves.

      • Fiona says:

        This is another ‘aha’ comment for me even though you have said something quite obvious. You are right – I’ve been thinking, I attract these people, that’s why I get stuck with them, we ALL attract good and bad people, it’s shaking them off. And you are spot on for me, I don’t feel like I can shake the bad people off when they stick to me. I feel like it’s a foregone conclusion, I feel like it’s my lot to bear.. and yet it doesn’t have to be. Thank you for enlightening me :)

    • Fiona says:

      Spot on! Actually one of my psychiatrists has said to me that I left home, and because all I knew was being abused, I was totally familiar with wanker’s treatment of me when he rocked up. And he was right.. because it was the familiar.. but I get confused because I didn’t choose him. Or so I thought – because in body language and not fighting him off, I guess I did choose him that way.
      I am glad that you are now with a good man – and that you have learnt so much. I hope you never have to be in an abusive situation again. You deserve to be safe and happy xx

  6. Dimplz says:

    I can’t say it’s that one always attracts them, rather that one doesn’t always get rid of them at the first red flag. Like you said, you tend to give people a lot of chances and believe there is good in people. Well, there’s good, and there’s the opposite. Some people have so little good, they are not worth dealing with. You won’t change them, and they will only ruin you. Best to let those people find their own way, and work on yourself and finding the kind of relationships that will lift you up, not break you down.

    • Fiona says:

      Hello Dimplz, welcome to my blog and thank you for commenting. I really appreciate that you have actually with your comments helped me see a vital error in my thinking – that even though we do attract these people it is in our power to get rid of them. We don’t HAVE to let them in. And yes, the kindest thing we can actually do for people who themselves are a mess is not give them another chance to hurt another person ie ourselves – which is doing the opposite – helping them stay bad. We need to steer ourselves away from them and yes, work on ourselves. Thank you so much for making me think!!!

      • mundanebrain says:

        Thats exactly what I meant with my first comment. We all attract both the good and bad, but then it’s up to us (or, sometimes not really, but thats EXACTLY what we should work on) which ones to ‘keep’ around

  7. elizadolly says:

    Ugh I think we all do this to some degree. My friend attracts controlling wankers. I seem to attract emotional chaos. Law of attraction type thing I guess.

    Here’s to attracting the good people from here on in!

  8. There are so many ‘sick, evil, stupid’ people in this world and all they do is try and find kind, nice, wonderful people that they can ‘con’. And because you are such a person you will automatically be a target, but there are also some honest, hardworking, caring people out there …and one of them is the one God wants and has chosen…You definitely have the spirit of discernment and those with their ‘cute’ comments with no substance hopefully you can quickly discard…with not a bit of pushed on guilt. You are not responsible for these ‘creeps’ only for staying away from them ‘post haste’ which I think you already know…..I have actually been praying for that special person to meet someday who is worthy of your trust….Remember you are not the problem…they are…Diane

    • Fiona says:

      Oh Diane, this speaks volumes to me, and thank you with all my heart for your prayers. I do tend to be too kind, to give people too much rope, to care too much which opens me up to being hurt as has happened with this blog comment situation. That person is extremely unwell, but beneath that, just not a very good or nice person and I fell straight into it. Even the most caring person cannot change someone who has no intention of ever helping themselves and seems to want to hurt others. I am hoping and praying that God helps me learn to stand strong against those who would take advantage of me and to not be such a bleeding heart – to know when kindness will be wasted on someone or even put myself in danger in some way, and yes, to move on without guilt. Guilt is a huge factor but I know now, I tried my best, I reached out to this person with care, concern, friendship – and they threw it all back in my face, and I can move on no longer feeling like a ‘fair weather friend’ who fled the moment things got difficult. I am sad that this person never actually was a true friend and I need to identify them more too. So many lessons hey? So many lessons, and so many opportunities to grow stronger and wiser. Nothing happens for no reason and I’m determined to learn and grow from this. Thank you so much for your prayers and support, you are an unending source of wisdom and comfort to me. xx

  9. Christine says:

    Dear Fiona,
    My grams used to say to me, “when you get in the mud with a pig, you get dirty and the pig gets happy.” I relay this to you because my hope for you is that you can be done over in ‘Crazytown blogland’ and not continue to engage. Clearly i’m aware that you don’t know me. Obviously, you can tell me to go pound sand. I would ask you to consider this first- I don’t think you deserve to get dirty; you should be happy. In my opinion, you are too good for this. By engaging, not only are you getting dirty, buy you have been manipulated onto getting dirty-you have fallen into the trap that has been set for you. You are a woman of dignity and honor…..walk away. Sorry for the unsolicited advice. I was compelled to say something.
    In regards to the post-
    I feel like I might have been almost sociopathic when I was an active alcoholic. I completely used people in “relationships” to babysit me. I was unable to ensure my own safety when i drank because I blacked out so I would rely on other people to make sure I got home, etc. When they got sick of me and my bs, I just move onto the next “hostage”. I would say the people that I sought out were codependent and wanted fix me. Facial expressions, eye contact and just body language in general say more than words ever could. Thankfully, when I stopped drinking I stopped acting like a psychopath :)
    Now I just need to work on the ED!!
    This turned into a novella..sorry!
    Be well, Christine

    • Fiona says:

      Hi Christine, I am not going to tell you to go pound sand at all – I’m going to thank you. All this has opened my eyes to many more facts about myself – I do need to do a lot more growing up, and I need to keep myself far more safe and back away from the crazy. It’s stupid to keep going over there and literally becoming a source of narcissistic supply. It achieves nothing, in fact, it probably contributes to her slide into illness.
      Thank you so much for this heads up. I now resolve to end my contribution to it all here. Not to be manipulated any more. Not to get dirty any more. To hold my head up high. I know my truth. Those who know me know my truths. God knows my truths. To be secure in that, instead of letting a childish taunt that isn’t even true rattle me into responding. We aren’t children but yes, we have all acted like children and I’m deeply ashamed of that.

      I think it’s awesome that you have stopped drinking. It sounds like you have come from a very hard place and that ED has taken over from drinking, or was it coexisting? It’s sadly so common. I’m sorry you felt like a sociopath in the way you used people for your needs, and I admire your ability to be honest with yourself and want to change things. I’m sure that those people who you ‘took hostage’ probably used you as much as you used them – I dont’ think that makes you sociopathic at all – codependant, yes. I hope so much that you do keep fighting your ED – you beat drinking, you can do this. Hope that things keep on getting only better for you. Hang in there and thank you again for caring enough to give me this advice xxx

      • Christine says:

        Life is all about growth. It seems that God has given you this lesson again to learn from. Take positive from it and move forward. Have you heard of Brene Brown? She does a fab Ted talk on shame and vulnerability..Google it if you haven’t watched it yet.
        My ED and drinking co-existed, I stopped drinking first because it was bloody apparent that it was going to kill me first…..it helped that I got thrown into detox too!

        • Fiona says:

          I haven’t heard of Brene Brown and definitely am going to google it. A lot of silver linings have already come out of this situation – so there’s something. I don’t think anything happens without a reason or a potential way to learn and grow.
          It sounds like being thrown into rehab helped you stop self destructing and become able to save your life – I’m glad that it did. Thank you for sharing your wisdom and kindness with me.

  10. Zuz says:

    Fiona, dear. I just wrote the following in Nicole’s blog because I couldn’t stand to watch them ripping you apart…

    I have to comment rather than continue to be a lurker. Fiona, you have been open and honest about your faults and struggles.The attacks by Nicole and Georgina have been horrible and typical mean girl behavior that I have not witnessedsince grade school. To gang up on someone who is so open and vulnerable with digs about not relying on government is sad. She is able to take advantage of resourcesthat her nation state make available. Good for her for reaching out. If only we in the united states had such help. And do not besmirch her character by implying her faulty relationships with her siblings. That is wrong.

    • Fiona says:

      Thank you, Zuz, I appreciate you sticking up for me so much. Nicole and I come from polar opposites when it comes to our backgrounds and she has NO CLUE what it’s like to grow up in poverty, have to run away from your own family to save your life, and then somehow make a life for yourself as a child in the big bad world. I very much doubt she would survive if she was thrown in the deep end. I have never had a family to financially support me the way she does. I have not been able to have a paid job to support myself because I have been far sicker than she ever was, even at her sickest. I did a lot of voluntary work – years of it, but it seems to not mean anything in her eyes. I guess from reading her opinions on homeless people, I should not be surprised. But she ought to clean up her own corner before taking pot shots at others. Sorry for being as mean as she is.. I have erased and re-commented many times – but it’s very very hard when I feel so unfairly hit out at by her and her taunts at me are so very untrue as well. Thank you for making me feel a little better in some way – thank you for your support.

  11. People like that really, really scare me! I’ve often wondered whether there is something that attracts people like that. Probably you do when you look lost, small, tender, helpless, insecure. I think body language tells quite a lot about that. And don’t forget that these people like to test others. So they might not know initially whether you are a proper prey for them, but they will start testing you, and if you don’t put up your boundaries sufficiently, you’re in the game.

    • Fiona says:

      Yes!! It really creeped me out to see what that person had written about testing others – writing about how he played ‘experiments’ on them. I don’t think they see us as feeling beings, they see us like.. I was about to write ‘guinea pigs’ or ‘lab rats’ but they are feeling creatures! I’m sure you get what I was trying to say though. We are not their play toys. I don’t think they ‘get’ it because they don’t feel the same way we do, they don’t truly love and they have no empathy. Truly scary people!!

      • A friend of mine (also a psychologist) used to work in the psychiatric area of a prison, and she had a lot of contact with people who had antisocial personality disorder. She told me they had no empathy and no insight in the suffering they caused in other people. So they couldn’t get therapy like other people would have. The only way to get along with them was to be very straight-forward and to just argue with advantages and disadvantages they’d experiences due to their actions, such as, “if you commit crime again, you’ll go into jail again and stay there, so better don’t so it”.

        • Fiona says:

          It’s interesting she says that. I read in Jon Ronson’s book I think (could be wrong) that another thing that makes it a bit harder for them to not reoffend is that if we experience pain, we drop whatever is hurting us like a hot potato. I’m talking about emotional pain, but we react the same as we do to physical pain – drop whatever is hurting us, we remember that it hurt us, and we avoid it the next time. But they don’t feel that pain, so logically they know that they can’t do it again because they will get in trouble, but it doesn’t really bother them. It’s an inconvenience at most, and often the thrill of doing whatever was wrong is far more alluring than the idea of avoiding that inconvenience again.

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  16. Oh Fiona, i feel terrible, as i’ve only just read this. I think this must have been published when i was taking a break from blogland. I’m so sorry for the hurt that these people – if they can be called that – have caused you.

    You have suffered an enormous amount of abuse that no one should have to go through. I’m glad you’re educated about it now, i read the psychopath test the other week as i mentioned to you and it was so interesting, although i haven’t had encounters anything like yours.

    I just want you to remember that they are the ones with the problem, not you. They have inflicted their inner hatred onto you. You are a lovely person, a true fighter. I just cannot express how sad i am that you have been through the things you have. :( xxxx

    • Fiona says:

      Thank you with all my heart – you are such a special and true friend to me.
      There are so many of them out there, aren’t there? And they are fascinating to read about – and scary to face. Knowledge is power and I’m very glad you are learning about them too. That book is awesome by the way :)
      xxx

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  18. Anormally says:

    What do you do if you don’t care about it? It scares me really. Someone I know has confessed in me that he thinks he’s a psychopath. I know, that’s kind of weird, but it’s not the first time something like this has happened. I’ve had ASDP people confess to me before. When asked about why he confessed to me, he said that it seemed natural, that I didn’t run away or got scared like other people would. It was nice to confide in me for him.

    I Just recently I got “dumped” by someone I’ve more or less had to label (which is something I like you loathe) a pure NPD. Dumping is a very mild way to put it, he called the police on me when I showed up at his address to get a note saying that he owed me 5K in my countries currency, which he still does, but acts if he doesn’t. I still love him. How fucked is that. Of course I’ve been contemplating if it was in reality me that was the “sick” one, I might also have stuff. But never in my life would I like to hurt someone or think of them as a tool for my own gaining. However I’m ADD and might have a nudge of asperger as well.

    So now I’m starting to get kind of scared. Before this I’ve been with a guy for 6 months, who verbally/emotionally abused me to the point that I had to get out. Mostly because he started harassing my family as well. I was 18 at the time (he was 4-5 years older and lived in another country). He also made death threats after I left him. After him I got together with a guy that is emotionally detached, he is the only guy who has actually laid a hand on me. He choked me 2-3 times during our 4 years of relationship. I’m still friends with this man… I feel like there is something completely wrong inside of me. That I don’t get scared off by these people even when they confess these secrets in me. It’s like I make myself believe that I’m a good person for not judging them or something.

    They confess horrid things to me. Like fantasies of killing people, coning schemes and whatnot. Tell me how they don’t really care about others. The whole thing you are talking about. Why don’t I run away?! What is wrong with me. It’s like I’m bored when with “normal” people. I feel off. It’s messed up. I have other stories too, but these ones are the most severe…

    • Fiona says:

      Hi there. Thank you for your comment. It sounds like you have had some very scary partners. It’s what I was talking about in the blog, how they always seem to latch on to people like me, it sounds like you have the same problem. I have an aspergers friend who does have the same problem with guys treating her like crap – maybe it’s because it makes you seem more vulnerable to them? I’m really sorry. Really sorry that you have been through so much, and I hope so much now that you are safe, right now? It’s interesting that they confess stuff like that to you. I wonder why? Maybe because of the not getting scared bit?
      Thank you for coming here and commenting. Please stay safe.

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